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nomdeblog

“Because Canada is so racist government action is required to help minority groups.”

That’s right. That’s the Librano$ Multi-culti creed in a nutshell. It is supported by its weapon of political correctness enforced by Orwellian HRCs. Trudeau conceived all this because he looked down upon the earth and saw Two Solitudes in Canada and saith: Let there be Two Hundred Solitudes so we can skim from them all and become the Natural Governing Party forever and ever Amen.

This came about as Trudeau looked down upon his garden and saw that “un-hyphenated Canadians” suffer from the guilt of the British Empire building 50,000 miles of track for India and Gandhi pointing out (while lying down on the tracks) how awful that colonialism was; thus Trudeau concluded those guilty for their ancestors colonialism could be tithed like the Catholic Church used to do. That tithing/taxing by Big Government in Ottawa allowed Librano$ to skim election funds while the money passed through to the Two Hundred Solitudes.

Here endeth the First Lesson from Librano$, thanks be to Trudeaupia.

Publius

Which just proves that you're a racist, nomdeblog.

One day the Indians will appreciate the inheritance bequeath by the Raj. Perhaps sometime before Canadians will appreciate the benefits of the old Empire.

Please remember, when you blame Trudeau blame Pearson too. I'm trying to get a campaign going where those two become interchangeable. Because they are. Pearson just wore a bow-tie while reinventing Canada.

nomdeblog

Look forward to the campaign Publius, even Pearson’s wife admitted she was surprised he made it to PM with “behind every successful man is a surprised wife” (or something like that).

But yes beware the bow tie. The Liberals need flair because they lack ideas. They thought Trudeau pirouetting in the Queen's parlor was cute. Can you imagine a Conservative pirouetting….say Rob Ford?

That’s why the progressives have their knickers in a knot over Ford…he doesn’t wear a bow tie and he can’t pirouette, therefore how could he represent us on the world stage?

All the world’s a stage to a utopian progressive, whereas to a Conservative all the world’s something to improve upon.

copinacus

Publius, I cannot understand how you can write this one day and the next, lambaste Stephen Harper for his sell out of true Conservative principles. From my little corner of Ontario, most of my friends are of the mindless brainwashed set produced in the Universities in the sixties and seventies probably much like your acquaintances in the GTA. They hew to the liberal line, listen to the CBC, like big government and distrust capitalism.
Good God, man. Look at the hysterical comments following any opinion piece in the Globe that treats Harper as a functioning human being and not the devil incarnate.
Remember, it was Ontario that gave the little prick from Shawinigan back to back majorities.
So here's hoping that for once, the chattering classes are right and our Steve does in fact have a hidden agenda which we will see once he gets a majority.
In the meantime he is walking in a minefield and I say, good luck to him.

Publius

copinacus,

In two words: Mike Harris

Yes, 1995 was a unique time. But when the Common Sense platform came out most pundits thought he was signing his own death warrant. There are conservatives in Ontario, though comparatively few in Toronto.

I'm not expecting Harper to be very right-wing, just a little bit right-wing. There is very little he has done that would not also have been done by a competent Liberal leader, with the notable exception of foreign policy. I will concede his foreign policy is the best we've had since Dief. But Canada is a small wheel in the international order and foreign affairs are not really a vital area for Canada (except in keeping the Americans not too much annoyed).

You might say Harper incrementalism is all that is possible right now. Fine. So why tarnish the Tory brand with it? The Reform Party accomplished far more out of power than the Harper Tories have accomplished in.

The point isn't power, it's pushing the goal posts (or the Overton Window) in our direction. Harper has done wonders for the Conservative Party but not conservatism.

nomdeblog

“In two words: Mike Harris”

Provincial politics are very different, you ignore the issues of the federation. Trying to glue all of Canada together from sea to shining sea is not the same as a winning formula in Ontario where the ecology and economy are driving factors that most voters can grasp.

The ecology and economy of Newfoundland is very different from Quebec which is different from Alberta. To try and hold voters together by straddling fossil fuels with hydro for example is challenging.

We need to shrink Ottawa, cut it in half or more, return to the BNA division of power and let the provinces stand on their own. That way, hopefully Ontario can get their Harris again and if Quebec wants a Trotskyite for Premier then fine, but I don’t want to pay for it.

“There is very little he has done that would not also have been done by a competent Liberal leader”

Well he is cutting corporate taxes; Iggy would raise them to pay for National Day Care. He cut 2% out of the GST, that is $10 billion a year left in the Provinces , that is devolution by stealth, that is shrinking Ottawa because a decision to tax is a decision to spend which is what Librano$ do… I could go on but this is probably all lost down the thread anyway.

copinacus

Publius
First of all, I wonder if Mike Harris was more the electorate's total repudiation of Bob Rae's disasterous term rather than the espousal of true conservative principles.
Again your friends (and mine) are so brain dead as far as conservatism is concerned, (they have to be when they only rely on the MSM and CBC for their politics),that any move more than incrementally to the right has the Globe and even the Post screaming hidden agenda.
Right now these people are admitting reluctantly that Harper is the best man for the job and some will hold their noses and vote for him or alternatively stay at home at voting time. Either way, it's a gain for the CPC.
And yes, I agree he has done wonders if not for conseervatism, for the Party, but as has been pointed out by others, it would seem his objective at this time is to replace the Liberal Party with the CPC as the 'natural governing party'. To do this he needs to capture the center, which he has done, and to hold it.
The Libs have been pushed to the left of center. They don't like it but they can't figure out how to get back.
They can't do it through policy (the Tories are already there) so they have to restort to personal assassination, hoping that at some point enough of it will stick.
Our base is secure. Let's face it, we have nowhere else to go. The 'fighting front' is Ontario and it is necessary to use tactics that will win in Ontario.
As for the Maritimes and Quebec, forget about it.
You know, I almost feel sorry for Ignatief.

Cytotoxic

@Copinacus: you've really only proven Publius's point. So you've replaced one Liberal party with two...and it's NOT going to get a majority either (don't kid yourself your braindead friends aren't going to vote in a Harper majority. It was all for nothing.)

copinacus

Cytotoxic
Maybe so, maybe not. It may be that Mike Harris was elected after the voters realized what a disaster the socialists had made of Ontario and were willing to subject themselves to a right winger to save their asses.
That was certainly the case in the US when the voters realizing what a disaster Carter was, elected the Barry Goldwater clone, the great Ronald Reagan to save their asses.
Similarly in Britain after years of dithering goverments both Conservative and Labour, allowed the trade union movement to threaten the shut down of the country did the voters elect the grocers daughter Margaret Thatcher to save their asses.

But as soon as these savior leaders (like the savior emporers of old Rome) did the job, they were again replaced by the progressives, singing their siren song of 'free lunch'.
Maybe, just maybe, our Stevie is thinking that he/we don't just want to be a one song hit. Maybe we should be in for the long haul. If that means incrementalism and even comprise, so be it. At least it's incrementalism in the right (pun) direction.

Cytotoxic

"At least it's incrementalism in the right (pun) direction."

Which there has been NONE of. Indeed, we've only seen a bigger and bigger state. The longer Steve's around in power, the more he grows government, and the longer the 'long haul' his supporters claim Steve's planning for.

copinacus

The attempts to abolish the Gun Registry, the Wheat Board, defunding the more radical rent seekers, the recognition of Isreal's right to fight back, defunding the government support of political parties, decrease in GST and corporate taxes, not toadying to the UN and it's syncophants to mention some that come to mind are some things a centrist LPC would not have done.
Think of the present stuff Iggy and the Libs are talking about; National Daycare, raising corporate and personal taxes (GST), a green programme far greener than anything Harper has mentioned, (and significantly, not carried out) to mention just a few and tell me these two parties are interchangeable.
It took the Liberals a half a century to 'progress' our country from a classical liberal one to what we are now.
A Mike Harris approach will only be a temporary fix. A gradual wheening of the public from the free lunch mentality is going to work only if done gradually. Permanent change comes minute by minute, inch by inch, not by radical leaps.
Again that's how we got to where we are now. Inch by 'progressive' inch, minute by 'progressive' minute. And that's the only way we'll get back.

Cytotoxic

Nope your examples fall through again. The corporate tax cuts were started by the LPC, and Ignatief has been (inconsistently) pro-Israel. Either way, the pro-Israel and UN harumphing is just so much hot air. Lowering the GST was stupid, and the attempts you mentioned were just that-attempts. Harper'st total inability to communicate helped botch them, which is just another reason he has to go. This feeble list is entirely outweighed by the appointment by Jeniffer Lynch alone. Harper has only accomplished pushing the political spectrum to the left. Any hope for a 'gradual weaning' is as delusional as striving for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

copinacus

I think we've run this thread about as far as it can go. Whether you sit on your hands at the next election or vote liberal out of pique is your choice.

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